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01/13/2010

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When I first saw this I thought it would be really handy for women whose fellers can’t find the clit, to point it out, but I was mistaken. I’m not talking about that big pink soft looking… thing… over there though, because how would that thing be helpful for clit-discovery class? It doesn’t even have an actual, ya know, clit on it… or maybe it’s just a real teeny one…. No, it’s actually a skin dye called “My New Pink Button”. As usual, I’m all worked up about what other people are saying, and being all contrary and what-not…

Jezebel got a tip, possibly from someone who watched the segment on “The Doctors”:

According to our tipster, the product was invented by a woman “of a certain age” who discovered that she had “lost her luster” down there.

Well, I can’t find a thing about the creator of the product saying she developed it because she’d “lost her luster” ‘down there’. What I did find was this blurb on the products “about us” page:

Perhaps the ‘tipster’ saw this product somewhere else, and the creator did speak about her own luster-loss, but I wouldn’t know that since it’s not mentioned in the post. Going by the blurb above, the product seems to have been developed for post-operative individuals. Age, and the changes brought about from age are mentioned here and there on the FAQ and the ‘testimonials’ page – but I haven’t found anything that could be considered pushing the product on the basis of what is “youthful”. Jez continues: 

… — if you didn’t know you were supposed to have a “youthful” look between your legs, doesn’t the discovery of this stuff foster insecurity?

WHAT THE FUCK. Women make about 75¢ for every dollar that men earn. Shoes, handbags and fashion “must-haves” are aggressively marketed to us. We’re expected to be thin, wrinkle-free and not have any gray hair (which, of course, is “distinguished” on a man)…. And now we need to shell out cash so that our labia can to be the “right” color?

No.

So sometimes your ladybits change color when you age or after you have children. Who cares? Why be embarrassed? If your parts work, and there’s someone in your life who wants to get up close and personal and explore your secret garden, you should have no complaints. …

And now I will say: WHAT THE FUCK.

This product is NOT marketed to the Jezebel audience. In fact, I don’t really think this product is “marketed” anywhere outside of plastic surgeons and dermatologists offices, and that horrid program the “Doctors” (which I heard once pushed anti-marijuana propaganda saying smoking it gave men prostate cancer)  I suppose it would have been better to keep hush about it? Those nasty lady bits, lets not even talk about them and how they change. No, even talking about the change means we must hate the change! It must mean we are misogynists somehow. Menopause? Woman-Hater! How dare you mention that?!

It’s frustrating that the program that “marketed” the product was barely mentioned, because the whole “youth” obsession is rampant on that show. Instead all the hate was heaped onto one individual woman who created a product for women. So, maybe it’s not a “true feminist” product, but it is a product, it’s out there and it’s existence could have led to a better discussion. The segment on the Doctors had a bit about if your bits turn “very white”, you might need to get checked for “Lichens Sclerosus” :  

Lichen sclerosus is a long-term problem of the skin. It mostly affects the genital and anal areas. Sometimes, lichen sclerosus appears on the upper body, breasts, and upper arms.

Symptoms-
Early in the disease, small white spots appear on the skin. The spots are usually shiny and smooth. Later, the spots grow into bigger patches. …

Lichen sclerosus of the genital skin should be treated. Even if it isn’t painful or itchy, the patches can scar. This can cause problems with urination or sex. There is also a very small chance that skin cancer may develop in the patches. Surgery is normally a good option for men. Circumcision (removing the foreskin on the penis) is the most widely used therapy for men with lichen sclerosus. The disease usually does not come back. Surgery is normally not a good option for women. When the lichen sclerosus patches are removed from the genitals of women and girls, they usually come back.

Again, WHAT THE FUCK? Look there, a piece of information that might actually be helpful to some woman somewhere. Pity that Jezebel didn’t talk about that, though I guess it’s best if we leave the serious blogging about women’s sex-related medical issues up to the folks at FeministsWithFSD.

And I love the assumption that the women who might use this product have someone wanting to get up close and personal, I guess we shouldn’t talk about how one might discuss a personal and unique situation with a new lover, we just shouldn’t complain.   

The whole thing, by that I mean the reaction on many many blogs is from the reference point of women who have no use for this product; somewhat younger women who have not had breast cancer, yet, or surgery where reconstruction is considered a valid option. If they want to argue on whether or not reconstruction or cosmetic surgery is a good thing, then they should argue about that. Arguing about a product developed for that use is pointless. It’s all assumed to be about “age” and “expectations” about aging, beauty standards and expectations about beauty, but it’s still up to an individual, and any individual who has this product is probably feeling real goddamned shitty right about now.

Dodai mentions that “discovery” of this product will lead to insecurity – but it seems to me that the teasing and derision on Jezebel would make me more insecure than simply finding out about some products existence. TPoH rang in too, with:

Pink Button exists only because of the beauty culture propaganda that tells our normal, healthy bodies are ugly…. the creators get bonus misogyny points for ageism. … a vulva that’s not glistening pink and “youthful” works just fine

Ahem. Who’s being ageist here? Who’s being “normal”-ist here? What about people who are not “normal, healthy”, and what the hell does that mean anyway? A “not glistening” twat works “just fine?” Really???? Hmmmm, I guess that depends on what is meant by “glistening” and “works” and “fine”, because it’s been my experience that the glisten really, really helps.

  1. Steven
    01/13/2010 at 9:34 PM

    Completely off topic…

    But in that video the fake lady bits looked like a hat.

    Kinda like one I had to wear from my time in the Marines:

    http://www.uniforms-4u.com/p-usmc-garrison-cap-piss-cutter-7322.aspx

    • FW
      01/13/2010 at 9:40 PM

      :) “also known as the “piss cutter” “ heheh
      oh my!

  2. K
    01/13/2010 at 10:08 PM

    You…
    How do you know what lichens sclerosis is??? No one knows what lichens sclerosis is!
    You… You saw the potential value for this thing too? It’s pretty serious… It can erode major features of the vulva if it’s left untreated. But there is treatment!
    I… Can’t fucking even talk about it…
    The others… Renee. She said it, she said something about, if you even think about it, you’re a colluder. I’m on the mobile device now so I’ll dig up the quote later if you insist.
    But there’s skin conditions & cancers that will change your vulva! They change the wAy it looks! And of that happens and you consider a dye or a procedure… How can I blame you? It could be irritating yes I know. I get it, ok? I know!
    But I dread to think, what if I was one of those people who needed something like this..

    Oh wait. I already am. I already had surgery down there resulting in, among other things, a minor cosmetic change. That wasn’t the goal, but it happened.
    And I like… I don’t feel comfortable commenting there or on harpyness, where their labias look just fine, thanks.
    And like.. Have you ever seen the comments that follow labiaplasty articles? I’ve seen it where someone pipes up that they either had, or want, labiaplasty because their labia really does get injured or hurt durig sex. And then there will be some condescending comment like “oh well that’s different” but then why not address that in the article being commented on? Or worse someone will say, “tuck it in!” or some BS like that. Ok maybe that will work for some folks but not everyone. All that attitude does is make it harder for folks who need & want help.

  3. FW
    01/14/2010 at 3:02 AM

    How do you know what lichens sclerosis is?

    I hadn’t ever heard of it… I watched that video, and they said “… so you might wanna get a biopsy” so I listened up and broke out the google…

    “If you are buying into this nonsense, you my friend are a dupe of patriarchy and capitalism.” – was one quote from the womanist thread. It was horrible everywhere, just horrible.

    And what’s with all the sites that have advertising calling out capitalism? That can’t be right.

    “We spend oodles of time praising everything phallic because it suits patriarchy but we never stop to question the purposeful demonization of the feminine.” was another quote… and it just baffles me, (though I used to read that stuff and was totally unbaffled) how they can’t see that they are the ones delivering the most demonization? Whenever any… thing, or anyone, or any product comes out that celebrates the feminine, it gets torn down because it’s the “wrong kind of feminine” or something… b

    Like the people demonizing this stuff don’t do things like that? Wax or shave or dye hair, or wear makeup or use hair conditioner? They’ll say “yeah, but society demands this of us, so we HAVE to do it” where “it” is whatever particular “just a beauty standard” thing they have decided should be an exception. For Them.

    “oh well that’s different” … totally, people always say that “oh I didn’t mean YOU or YOUR situation” … why don’t they even consider that people with “that situation” might actually be reading the same fucking sites as them and reading what they say? Of course they don’t, if they considered that stuff, they would’ve mentioned it in the friggin posts to begin with. And I don’t think I’ve ever really seen any post get updated where they say they might have been too hasty or just plain too fucking mean about it, and on further thought blah blah blah…. Never see that.

    Gah, it was just heartbreaking… if only all those bloggers had said ‘wow, interesting and helpful if you feel you need it, but remember we all age and have problems so don’t be ashamed’….

    • FW
      01/14/2010 at 3:21 AM

      oh there was one time on IBTP where she’d I guess ranted about labiaplasty, and then the next week or something she found out her new puppy needed labiaplasty to prevent potential problems of some sort. It was an “ironical twist” she called it. Yeah. I can’t remember if she bothered to re-address the possible medical reasons for humans to have the surgery, or if she just concentrated on it being sometimes necessary for dogs. ugh. so wrong.

  4. 01/20/2010 at 9:41 PM

    I can see your point, and even up to a point agree that perhaps the wrong tack was taken as far as truly evaluating the product from a philosophical/social/sexual standpoint on the sites, but I have to disagree with some of your defenses of the maker of this product.

    To glean from a very short bio of this woman that this makeup was intended for post-op patients is assuming, in my opinion, too much. Yes, she made makeup for breast surgery patients in the past – but that does not state that this product is intended for the same use. She also owns a day spa and felt that of similar import to include with the bio, which would suggest with equal weight there is an appearance and beauty factor at work. Additionally, I find it curious that there is a “line” of post-op breast makeup this woman has created, but has not named or linked. Was it not successful? Did something happen? Why, if she’s still making it, would she not mention it?

    The images, text, and overall appearance of the product do not look to be, in my view as a marketing worker, geared towards labial disorder or post-operative patients whatsoever. The women on the jars are scantily clad, clearly sexual in nature, and are branded with names strongly tied in with real life, very sexual models. The applicators are – lets be honest here – eyeshadow brushes, and it comes with a shot glass. These are not, collectively, considerations I would take lightly if I were experimenting with a serious skin condition or surgical healing to consider.

    Again, I respect your speaking out and calling out what you consider incorrect, and enjoyed reading your post all the same. Thanks for the ability to add my two cents. :)

    -TC

    • FW
      01/21/2010 at 1:42 AM

      Thanks for the comment :), I appreciate what you’re saying, the sexualized image and all, but please know that I’m not defending the maker of the product, I mentioned her only because there was no mention of “post-surgery” of any kind on Jez or the other threads (broadsheet was the only one I saw that mentioned medical conditions) – and I think if they had only mentioned that little bit, then the people reading it and commenting could have talked about the other reasons besides ‘age and beauty’ that women might use this.

      Also, now that I’m thinking about it, at least ya have a shot glass left over :/

      & 2 cents are always welcome, I’m saving up for a rainy day :)

  5. 01/23/2010 at 4:17 PM

    Also, you’ve probably already seen, but just in case…someone actually tried the stuff. Take a gander at those ingredients – fruit juice concentrate..?

    http://iasshole.org/?p=1771

    • FW
      01/23/2010 at 4:21 PM

      Helpful

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